Ex Date
Jul 14, 2011
Ex Date
Jul 14, 2011
22.08.2022
As on 4th May ,2023, as % of total investment amount
The story started on January 13, 2018,when the merger of IDFC Bank and Capital First is announced.There is a lot of hawa in the business news channels about the merger and the stock price of IDFC bank is going up.So I purchased some.The merger happened and I was holding some shares.
Why Mr. V. Vaidyanathan,created Capital First.My realization is ,he has an entrepreneurial spirit. Because ,if he had been in ICICI Bank,may be ,by now he would have been the CEO of ICICI bank.What I think that he has entrepreneurial spirit and entrepreneurs like to build their things from scratch.
Ok ...leave it...
There was a lot of hawa in the business channels about the merger and the profile and past achievements (i.e. Capital First) of Mr. V. Vaidyanathan and I listened to the business channels (which no one should ever have) and bought some shares.
Ok....what is the difference between a bank and NBFC ? The simple difference is, banks can raise their raw materials i.e. money in terms of deposits and account balance (i.e. minimum average balance in current account and savings account etc.) at very low interest rate and lend the same as loan in high interest rate.But , NBFCs do not have this luxury to raise money in low cost i.e. like banks, they can't get unlimited deposits from public.So, NBFCs raise money through of loans from banks ,bonds and equities etc.
But ,one thing is to be noted that with these limitations ,still the NBFCs like Bajaj Finance and Capital first have produced super normal profits since several years.What it shows that, these NBFCs have absolutely brilliant underwriting skills.In banking domain the simple meaning of "underwriting" is,the ability to sanction a good loan to a customer,which will not become NPA in future".This underwriting skill may be a person specific.But when a person having such skill becomes the CEO ,gradually the skill is crafted in the DNA of the organisation and became the culture of the organisation and remain with the organisation till anybody else disturbs it.What Capital First gets from the merger ,is ability to raise unlimited deposits from the people.Because ,in India banking license is not granted to everyone and highly is regulated.Since IDFC bank was a bank (i.e. has already a banking license) ,therefore post merger capital first also became bank.
Mr. Vaidyanathan, made very good terms prior to merger like, making IDFC Bank's NPA to below 1%.
The catch was very simple.Capital First will bring its brilliant underwriting skills to IDFC bank and get the unlimited deposit access and lend the money to retail and make profit.
But ,what were the challenges ?
The Problem is that ,IDFC bank was not a normal bank like HDFC,Kotak etc.IDFC Bank primarily was an infrastructure bank.This means It was like a B2B bank and not like a B2C bank.It was not raising money from public via retail deposits,current and savings accounts.It was raising money via bonds in very high interest rate ,from institutional investors and gives loan to companies having capital intensive businesses like Power,Road,Telecom etc.
So prior to the merger unlike HDFC bank what were not available in IDFC bank ?
The merged bank posted 1st quarterly result in Q3,FY 2019 with a loss of Rs.1538 crore.I remembered ,that the CEO mentioned that ,they have written off Rs.2,390.53 crore of goodwill in the quarter.Then COVID happened.The bank posted losses in subsequent quarters.
But in these quarters ,I am not at all interested in the profit loss statement or balance sheet.But I am more interested in in the management commentary.I used to listen what management is saying in the Q&A sessions,after the quarterly result.After listening the result I was trying verify their actions in ground.
My ground work started & sequence of events happened as follows
Over the years what I learned that not all the businesses make money.Let me say it differently,over the years what I learned and realized that some type of businesses will definitely not make money.
The soldiers in the economy
Some businesses are like soldiers in the economy of a country ,which are the basic requirements of the country.These are the businesses over which other businesses in the country will flourish.So these soldier businesses are highly regulated and pricing power will never be granted to them.Because these are the basic requirements of the country and if pricing power is granted to these businesses ,then it will affect all the other businesses in the country.Some of the examples are
Example
Power generating companies have entry barrier and not anybody can come and start generating power immediately.
Energy is highly essential.
Not everybody can produce it.
Then why the companies like NTPC,PGCIL etc do not make money for shareholders. Because even if they make highly essential products/services and no body else can make them,still they don't have the right to fix the prices for their products / services that they provide.
If the producer of the product do not have the right to fix the price for its products,then it will not make money.No matter even if it makes fighter aircrafts having alien technology, it will definitely not make money. These are like socialist businesses which are not allowed to make make money so that others can make money.
If pricing power is granted to the power generation companies ,then they can increase tariff and cost of production of for FMCG,Automobile companies etc.will rise. So power tariff will be kept lower deliberately.
Example
Oil marketing companies like Indian Oil,BPCL etc are selling petrol and diesel in losses and Reliance and Essar petrol pumps are avoiding selling or selling less petrol and diesel so that that they can make less loss.
Every country which is democratic in nature and do not have sufficient natural resources (like Land,Oil,Energy,food,minerals etc. ) to support its population is definitely a socialist country because it has a gap between need and availability of resources and the country need to distribute the resources as per the need of the people and not as per the wish of the people, which is a classic definition of socialist country. and if such country now allows you to make profits i.e. if it supports capitalism now ,then there must be a set of businesses in that country which operate in the socialist rule and they are not allowed to make huge profits, so that other business can make profits and enjoy capitalism.
What I learned that ,category-A type of businesses are not allowed to make money so that category-B type of businesses can make money and I need to stay out of such category-A type of business....
Before buying any company, I must check my default check list.Apart from that even if all the check lists are satisfied,the most important thing I should not ignore is "valuation".Remember that a company may be a good one since last 15 years or it might remain excellent for next 20 years.But its stock price will not be good in between this time period, from a buyer's point of view.Stock prices oscillate in between cheap and expensive and I need to buy a good business in cheap or fair valuation.Sometime the stock price may not come to my calculated valuation and for years and I might have to sit with cash.It is okay if I sit with cash.But I need that margin of safety so that if the stock I purchased do not rise ,then also I can sit with mental peace.A good purchase price provides me that mental peace.
Scenario-1
Often you might be hearing this in business news channels that a particular stock is corrected 40% from its 52 week high and looks attractive.
If the business is not worth investing,then there is no point in calculating the valuation of the stock.It does not matter how much % the stock is corrected from its top.
I just don't understand the logic behind it.
TCS...no doubt ..it is a good company..... as on 19.07.2022...its stock price is Rs.3074/- and its all time high was Rs.4043/- .So,it means as on date the stock is corrected 32% from its all time high. Now TV channels are telling that TCS looks attractive.
give me a break....
look at its current market cap ...its 11.21 Lakh crore ....so at its all time high its market cap was 14.79 Lakh crore.
Even if you buy TCS at current price ...if you think to make your money double in TCS ,then its market cap needs to be 22.42 Lakh crore.Lets say its earnings will justify its stock price ,then its current EPS (i.e. Earnings per share) i.e. Rs. 104 need to be doubled i.e. Rs.208. TCS has nearly 22% margin.So in order to make EPS double ,its revenue needs to be doubled i.e. from 1.95 lakh crore to 3.9 lakh crore.Lets say it will happen over next 5 years it means its revenue needs to be grown at 14% .But its revenue is growing at 5.71% since last 5 years.So if the whole IT industry will grow at 15% for next 5 years ,then it will cross India's GDP perhaps.Again what other IT companies will do ? TCS is not the only company in this planet.Perhaps it need to go to the Mars for getting projects.
currently TCS is available at 30 PE multiple.Its growing at 5% and PE is at 30.It does not make sense.
Two things can happen....
1st... its stock price may stay there constant as it is for several years and gradually its earnings will increase slowly and justify its price.In this case you will not loose money in paper.But you will get -ve 6% yearly because in India inflation is around 6% minimum.
2nd....its stock price will collapse because market will not give 30 times premium to a 5% growth company.Lets say if it re-rates TCS to 15 PE multiple.So you will loose 50% of your money in paper.
In both way you will loose money.
Lets say we give premium to TCS ..since it can give whole EPS to shareholders ...still the 30 PE and target 22.42 Lakh crore market cap in next 5 years looks insane.
I may be wrong...but I don't want to take that much risk to make my money double.
Where we make the mistake is....we see the correction in stock price in isolation.
But we need to see the following things in together